From TikTok to OnlyFans: Lessons on Growing and Monetizing Your Audience.

it's the [ __ ] costume my face is theit yeah it is top tier all right welcome well thank you me um so I guess I said to you just off camera right now we're going to try something a little different today I'm here for it like the guys who are watching this have just seen an intro I've done about you from what we're about to talk about okay so we we've like gone back in time future and all sorts of stuff I just told everyone about some crazy [ __ ] that you did remember that thing yeah oh my God yeah going to love it so I've already told them right so first of all let's just start off with like the elephant in the room yep because

everyone's going to want to know this up front tell me the story about like why only fans why that Journey how did that happen give me something okay it's a long story but I'll condense it as much as I possibly can so I was a corrections officer for 5 years um and then for the last two of that I was a drug and alcohol counselor how I got into that I have absolutely no [ __ ] idea but um yeah preco um happened and only fans kind of popped off you know like everybody every every single person was starting to do it and all of this money was being made and I always joked for like a year and a half oh if anything was ever to

happen to my job I'd do that and all of my friends who know my personality were like oh my God you'd be so great at that You' make so much money um and then I got into not trouble but I did a podcast with one of my friends while I was still working for Corrections which they weren't too happy with um so I took it upon myself to be like okay I'm out yeah and they were like well what are you going to do and I'm I'm going to be naked on the internet I love that just a complete transition yeah um I had no idea what was going to happen fully just put the faith in the universe I think I had a following

of like 5,000 at the time and that was it yeah um so I was really going out on a wh and I just announced it and I think it was the attitude that I went into it with of like yeah I'm like I'm doing this I don't care who I'm going to be vocal about it whatever um and then Tik Tok was the Saving Grace with all of that because stuff started to it was like PE you know Peak Tik Tok now it's kind of died out a little bit now but back then you know and the stuff that I was saying like when we say Peak Tik Tok you mean like Peak Tik Tok for only fans creators is getting lots of money from

it yeah 100% Peak Tik Tok for not being like Shadow band yeah for being like PC yeah yeah and even the stuff that you could talk about you know a lot of stuff gets censored now 100% people lose accounts for nothing now for absolutely nothing yeah okay so tell me like it must have went well because you continued it yes so so wait that was 2020 2019 2020 2020 two honest two years ago to the day yesterday that I walked from Corrections so pivotal timing yeah I love it that is the funniest thing too like that I was a corrections officer not just corrections officer like drug and alcohol Dr alcohol me because I like watch some of your content and there's a lot of

it about like drugs giv up again I've given up this I've relapsed again reled so and then you've gone into Zony fans it's like a it's a crazy story cuz like the the reason I like it is that in a typical world if this was a TV y this is a really bad story for someone who's like they fell off the rails they've gone all the stuff's happen blah blah blah blah blah but actually like what I really like out of like what you've done with she fresh is like it actually like subverts all that expectation so before we get too far into sheesh take me back to this like initial period of only fans like it must have went well like tell me about

it like what what are you willing to share about it from like a financial standpoint how was it did you when did you start replacing what you were earning like how was it it was like I'm I'm so happy to be transparent about everything um the first month I think was I was would have been happy if I was making my same salary what I from what I was making at corrections but I think I exceeded that like three times over within the first month and and to me I was like this is just everybody wanting to have a nosy um you know because it's and who were those first people were they people you knew already oh yeah they're Corrections Officers I fing love

that and they then they like send a little message to be like oh it's so and so and I'm like oh bro you got a wife like come on oh that is the best yeah yeah be funny if it was like the prisoners with their smuggled in phones they've done that too I love that best the prisoners are fans of the Tik Tok yeah it's not yes play like Miss why didn't you do this while you were working in the prison I'm like oh my God go away oh that's so good so yeah the first three ex your salary first month first month and then and then it took a dip because hype's gone yeah the hype's gone and I was like [ __ ] what am

I going to do now I'm naked on the internet like cool everything mom and dad said was going to happen was right and then I got I started doing Tik toks about interactions of with people that I was having in Hawks Bay when I lived down there I was getting noticed at the supermarket um young kids were coming up to me just saying the most outlandish stuff and all of the these things that happen I think some sometimes people say it to be offensive but I take it and I'm like this is great content cuz so good I love laughing at myself so I started doing that and then one of them went really viral and it picked up the momentum and the started coming

back and then from then the platform just started growing um then the Instagram starts growing and it's a funnel you know people see creators that have reals that have like 7 million views and they're like oh my God she must have made so much money from that but it's dependent on what the content actually is exact yeah so there was a period of figuring all of that stuff out too but I was loving it cuz I was like oh it's so me I can say whatever I want I'm doing what whatever I want um and that it was it went really really well for like the year and a half following that okay yeah yeah and so okay hang on then yeah so it went

really well for a year and a half following that then what happened and then the market for creators coming into only fans now is so oversaturated and I think people there's like a naivity around this whole I can quit my job and make six figures and only fans within the first month and be super successful that may have been the case a couple years ago but not so much now especially with how much harder it is becoming to go viral on platforms that you're restricted because of what it is that you do like every Community guideline is breached and that becomes harder and harder even if the following is still growing um and you know you're it's like what the cost versus the benefits of

it you're putting so much time into like the collabs that you go to yeah t % of it is porn and the rest is like the reals and the tick toks and all of that so it can become quite draining financially and mentally um and compared to what I was making that first year and a half it's still great now like don't get me wrong but it's not as much as it was and I'm like huh okay that's obviously that was the trigger for how do I Branch out of this and create another income stream yeah tell me you said want to be transparent like like what would that if you think if you average the 2 years out as an annual how much like

even if it's a bull you probably like 200,000 that's cool that's [ __ ] great yeah and see even me saying that like my head's going oh my God but what about these girls that make like 500 Grand a month you know I mean there's always yeah there's always the guys or the girls or the people the businesses that are doing better like it's a scale right because there's also those only fans creators who make $500 after you know and they all lie about being in the top 0% and yeah it's that's just a marketing marketing Tech and so honestly so much of it is marketing and the people that I've worked with that are professional creators oh my God they are so clever like they should

be running agencies the the ideas that they have and how they work around how they execute on it oh brilliant like such clever people and really really nice people too I actually thought that about your stuff because like um when I when I when I've watched all the stuff that I watched I thinging every like yeah of course you're watching the funny stuff stand the funny stuff but um but it is real funny like it's real funny like I was showing sh before she was like started losing her [ __ ] about especially the she fresh content I'm glad oh the she fresh content is top ti so much coming from you no no top tier hey like top tier like I was showing her she just

like lost her [ __ ] straight away it's the [ __ ] costume it's my face is yeah it is so good and so I actually thought that was really smart not not she fresh but like your um which I'm going to get into like your pranking your mom and stuff like the that sort of content yeah you like the one where you put the uh speaker in your mom's bag I thought it was like one of the smartest only fans created content I'd seen in a long time because you've taken something that's like uh real funny like proper prank Funny like and pranks always do well on social always but there's like an element of it being sexualized which is enough for like uh brand if that Mak

sense you know like that's kind of funny when you talk about it from Like a Porn perspective but like it's true 100% And The the thing that made that go so viral was the caption cuz I said plot twist it was my own sound and people in the comments are going what the [ __ ] you did that to your mom like what do you do for work and then you know the responses that you can give it's just content for days it's so good it's so good so okay I just before we move on to the next piece I want to know like you said it dropped the last six months yeah like in relativity from like where you used to work in Corrections what is

it still definitely like still over and above um but it's there's been a lot of stuff that has unfolded in my personal life too like when I started this I was married so the consequences or the repercussions I was like I'm sit I'm solid like I don't have to worry about people saying oh you know what what are like new partners going to think and what what's all of this um all the [ __ ] that you're going to get before I was like no that's fine my life's set so I think like personal chaos has definitely contributed to your ability to be creative um and then probably you know like I do get very insecure and like very easily overwhelmed so kind of not crisis point

but I'm like what what am I doing with my life or what is the next thing because you slowly do start to become irrelevant like once people are seeing you naked a couple times they're like oh yeah cool maybe they'll come back for a nosy every couple but yeah you know well there's so much porn out there that like it's like you can always find something else there's always a new person there's always a new top person on porn or some [ __ ] like that exactly but okay first of all though um you just s El which I didn't know so you were married when you first started the whole journey so tell me that story like what like is it related is it a separate

whole another thing like the I think the impact that doing this kind of work has on relationships is something that a lot of people don't want to talk about because it's like I'm making this much money so everything's fine but it really does start to impact so many aspects not only of somebody's relationships but also their friend Circle as well um like being Uninvited from certain events because of the stigma that comes with it yeah Y and and I guess like if I'm being completely honest the money that was coming in I did let it get to my head a little bit and I was like w you know like like I'm I'm doing my thing so [ __ ] everyone else you know okay got it

um okay tell me about that then so like that for like that is pretty hard thing when so that your partner is that husband yeah well ex-husband husband yeah ex-husband so they weren't part of this journey no and so then they had to live in this world of people who essentially were watching yeah friends um the nature of his job like everything that came with that he was a saint for for dealing with it um and just kind of putting the blinkers on but I guess it gets to a point where you know I only did content with females because of being in a relationship but you know then you can only grow so far when you're doing that kind of stuff and that's not

me saying I'm going to go do content with males or anything but you know there are issues that come with everything yeah um a lot of the couples that you see that do only fans are together in person and it's not like open relation ship Vibes because it is very much a job so performative like it's not for me it's not sex it's just acting yeah yeah yeah but a lot of people don't a lot of people don't get that yeah um how did that conversation go to with him to begin with like um because it had been such a running narrative for like a year and a half prior because of the like you're on my close friends you see the thing you know

I was the drug and alcohol counselor and the things that I was getting up to it's like it would have come as no surprise um and I was genuinely really miserable um working in that environment not so much in Corrections cuz I've got some great memories there but being confined to yeah routine and shift work um it took such a toll on my mental health I'm going to go do porn and make my mental health even worse [ __ ] how like do you rem me asking how old are you now and I'm 13 now so you were still pretty young I guess when this started yeah I I mean you're young compared to me so maybe these two or these three are like [ __ ] she was

old yeah she's old oh my God she's got a three in front of it I'm holy yeah but okay so so 28 did it that all started to when did that if you don't mind me asking like when did that relationship end um like middle of last year okay yeah and then and then that sort of like probably brings us that's at six Monon period right post that so like I'm G to ask you a question do you you said some stuff about the industry saturated there's lots of people on and all that and I like if you know any if you ever get to know anything I think about content and like size and scale like I'll hear that and I'll be like you're

full of [ __ ] yeah call me out yeah I just think it is like I think it's like always a weak excuse because there are still people doing well yeah but now I've heard the story I'm like there's so that's it it's explain it's understandable right mental health is probably in TAS oh without a doubt like it's not a small thing to get divorced yeah at all right and sell a house and go through all of that but then also the added pressure of having to show up online anyway the content that I was putting out was [ __ ] because your mind's not there or like you don't have the energy to do it um oh that's it yeah you're right and so like that's probably more

of it than anything and like we said even in our team as soon as someone in the team who's a creator is having a rough patch and whatever they do like it just you can tell it just goes like you just know you have to get their head straight like like Janie who does all that internal stuff I love her oh and she's she's like stupidly talented in what she does but the amount of times I've sat on one of these couches with [ __ ] her a glass of wine and me having to like talk her [ __ ] like playing counselor because like she's just gone inside her head and then we've had nothing for like a week right like we'll get nothing go out cuz she's

just like inside her head Y and then you have to like get her out of it so then and then the next week she's like oh here's 50 Tik toks yeah y I like [ __ ] you know so I'm the same yeah but like I think that's interesting to talk about though because like going into this next thing which we'll get into a sheesh like the same thing's going to happen without without a doubt just cuz you've changed the money Source doesn't mean the problem's gone away oh and probably more problems because I was I was saying out there the money oh and the money that you make doing only fans compared to a startup business that doesn't really have any sex appable except for me

sitting there in a giant Fanny costume like you know not much sex just rubbing this like fake little fatty oh so like very different concepts of how much money you're going to make and having to accept that um and learn to balance that is an that like that's a huge challenge in itself yeah well you go into a business model that's got less revenue and higher costs y but the problem of actually marketing them is exactly the same yeah and so it's good to identify that well actually the problem isn't that only fans are saturated no the problem is just that like you've got to go back to making better content yeah like and find a niche I actually think like your like I actually

really do think your Niche is like real smart like thank you because like there's um oh I can't remember the comedians names but there's a few female comedians in the US there's one who does a podcast the blonde she's blonde girl she does like um she does a podcast anyway she said like Matt RI and all the on she's not that oh um like like Tara oh tenner Mojo no not ten Mojo um anyway it'll come back to you later somewhere in this they'll be like a thing that says who it is was but she like using the comedic approach she's like a full comedy podcast she's a comedian standup as well but then she has a full only fans thing it's so smart because

it's like I'm making all this content on humor which is the biggest niche in all but then because she's and people shees only fans like imagine if like I don't know like Taylor Worth Stars only fans oh my God she make a trillion dollars and an hour yeah you know what I mean so like it's it's that thing of like here's someone that I watch for something else that I fantasize about and now they're doing this thing yeah so I would say that like I I don't think enough people in like in the smaller creative space are doing it enough where they just stop doing sexual content and just leaning all to another Niche so you think there's a way to balance both I think

there's a way to just do comedy yeah and have everyone go find your own Evans yeah yeah cuz that's there's a couple of girls that I follow in the UK and she markets herself she's put herself in the niche of erotic comedy and she's so funny um and comedy is like I live and breathe that I love to get into that realm as that I'm so I have such a strong desire to do but it's um for me in my head I'm like who's actually going to want me doing that based off of the other half of Me no but you don't need to worry about that do you think no no no no so like if you build up a massive audience of Comedy

yeah you can do whatever you want Matt R sold out a world tour in 6 seconds isn't that crazy like it was nuts what he did like okay it was maybe a bit longer than 6 seconds but it was less than an hour yeah he sold it at a world tour I think it was like 600,000 tickets just from Tik toks just from Tik toks yeah so what I'm saying is like when you become like cuz humor is such a because you're naturally funny it's a good content style you understand setup and punch lines and humor it's not everyone like most people don't like I'm not very good at it that's why I have Joan in the team and other guys who do funny stuff

um if you can get humor and like build that up yeah then you don't have to worry about anyone because you have this whole following who just does what you ask yeah so like what if you just rebranded as like I'm full comedy public yeah but exclusive and then you know you might not you might be able to pull away from only fans eventually like which we'll get into yeah but like you could because you can direct them anywhere and so if you want to do a comedy show you just rock up to the venue and be like hey what's your Venue fee I'm running a show yeah like don't worry about what they say I honestly I would love that's funny you say that

because based on the following that I have across all socials now I have thought about doing that like never done a standup comedy gig in my life so intent on doing one imagine if I could sell out somewhere in ockland just like first timer be like here we'll put on the shall we actually yeah done you been talking about it for ages imagine if like the I bomb imagine if it's so bad you know actually um with like this is H yeah [ __ ] I think I can talk about it now um this is not coming out for a few weeks so um so J and I have got an idea for another show which is essentially a dating show filed here oh my God you

need to do it and the whole it's like a comedic dating show yeah ah there's bro there's heaps of them like we''re been look we've got all the references that we want to copy yeah but we the thing that's different for us is that like we know so many funny people oh my God who are single brilliant and Sam you need to do that oh I don't know if you're single now but kids do it anyway I'll do it for the ls just do it for the ls you don't even need to be single it's just funny and I was just thinking like even like all the other only fans girls that we know now just like for the last right like for the bits

um anyway I guess what I was trying to say is I think there's that whole niche of like being the hot girl who has only fans yeah I think that that is still good like it's still very much something you can do but because you have always like we talked just out there you been thinking about how do I transition out of this longm like lean into the comedy yeah like why not just like stop doing sexual content on all your platforms and just purely comedy just cuz you're real funny so just do heaps of funny stuff yeah you get all these viral moments and people cuz like think about it because you've got the other content M your follower grow slows and people go

oh [ __ ] I can't be seen following an only fans yes right yeah because like your crowd is a little older maybe in relationships and stuff like that it's not that easy to like have people follow on new fans it would cause dramas and you know what it is so you're already going to slow your growth yeah right but if you like stop doing that yeah and just had that like was like even with clear cuz I'd be like cracking up at one of your videos and she's like who you looking at like I'll tell her she's like oh yeah watching the only fans people again she she gets it she understands because she's watched it too she's cracked up as well yeah but like what

of our relationships sh she gets it yeah but a lot is a lot won't oh so many people don't and it's like the whole perception that comes with being in that field of work as well like we're all dumb and horny and just [ __ ] you know it it's so far from the truth oh yeah but it takes years and years and years toos that I've got from this podcast that won't stop going off is the one with Amara um from Thumper y talking about how um just like the the world that she's in and like how people treat her and stuff like that and the comments of people like it's getting it's a real negative commentary um but it's still going off that was like

six months ago maybe and my if you got my notifications down on Tik Tok like it's still people commenting on their video just because of this thing this people get into their high and be like oh she's a [ __ ] and yeah oh without a doubt and I think the thing that I like that I've done with how I Market myself is I'm I'm incredibly sensitive and like insecure but I don't like letting people on to that cuz I also do have a thick skin so when people say insulting things I'm like how can I make this funny like how can I clap back at them you know and then it doesn't take much you go look on their profile and you see some of the

videos like this one guy came at me and I went on his profile and he was sexy dancing to genuine Pony and put it on his Tik Tok and I stitched it and it went viral and he deleted his page I was like oh poor bro that's I'm like don't well don't come at me or else I will do you dirty I love that well that then leans me into a couple things so first of all tell me about your mom oh and your poor mom and all the [ __ ] you put her through she's a good sport she's the best like okay how how does she like feel about being the butt of the joke she she'll say that she doesn't like it but she

is like the most loving person and I think she was probably the most apprehensive out of my entire family when I first just started this whole thing cuz she was like what are you what are you going to do to yourself mentally how are you going to survive she saw all of the [ __ ] that I went through as a teenager and just like she was there for everything so now that she can see that I have harnessed this comedic energy and the stuff that we do together gets good numbers yeah she lowkey loves it yeah I love it it's so good I've been like trying to like get my mom to do more cuz like my mom's like um like she she wants to so

my mom and dad like recently have like officially like separated for the first time like there's been an ongoing thing but it's finally happened the last few years right yeah and since that Mom's become this like whole other woman that's amazing she's like got her lips done she's got her [ __ ] eyes lasered she's like doing all the stuff she traveled she start traveling all sorts of stuff and I sort of said to her like you need a social media cuz she's like 67 now 67 this year you need like an income that doesn't rely on you being in a bank you know cuz that's where she works Y and I keep trying to tell her like be like let's do like I'll make something with

you but I couldn't I haven't got her convinced to do it show my mom videos oh I've shown her so many and I think I have I've definitely shown her your mom's ones as well like just like see you could do funny stuff and she's been in a couple videos with us yeah and um her Tik Tok is the mother of the attention seeker love so she's got a bunch of people who follow her just because of the couple videos that Viral with her it's F do you know what people really relate to like the mother child content I like it strikes a soft spot with a lot of people my mom got recognized for the first time this week somebody came up to her

and gave her a hug and she called me and she was like I I made a Tik Tok about it but the people were commenting they were like yeah that's our mom like they love her and they love the bond so I'm I have to keep doing this you have to double down on it just got to think of more pranks oh even just like um playing into it as a character like having the conversations or yeah like I I always thought about like what uh the real conversations you could have with your mom about telling dark secrets about yourself or like crazy [ __ ] that you did as a kid cuz I did some [ __ ] up [ __ ] oh yeah and like her like exposing the

truth about Stanley in his [ __ ] stupid childhood yes yeah yep you know what I mean like people would watch that I mean that's not quite prank level but but it's you start to build law around you outside of it yeah um all right what was your mom's name carela carela yeah car pranks hey mom come out more pranks mom come make some more pranks okay so that's that and then I wanted to about I didn't I hadn't seen at the time I just saw when it was like the 12 month anniversary or whatever it was about the Bunnings thing this is the best I didn't so that was a while ago right this Bunnings video was done last February yeah yeah and it only made

the news in like October last year yeah so good so for everyone who hasn't seen it who's watching this podcast cuz it's I don't know tell us a story let me explain so me and another creator Lea um went into Bunnings and we were filming just like you know your generic content only fans reals where we had skirts on and undies and then we had lingerie over the top and we filmed ourselves taking the lingerie off and hiding it like behind planks of wood being like tradies come get it the Bunnings staff saw that and they didn't say oh they asked us to leave and then 2 days later the police rocked up to laya's house gave her a tres pass notice said you're not

allowed to come here and film anymore I got served at trespass notice I was like this is actually wild like we well maybe we were doing something wrong but you know under we left behind yeah maybe yeah I don't know um so yeah that but it is wild yeah it was wild but it was funny and and the real she posted it on Tik Tok it ended up getting deleted but it got 3.5 million views in like 12 hours yeah so it was doing its thing um and I think that's what notified the staff and then there was a um there was like a blanket email sent out to not allow content creators in the Bunning store it's so funny so last week we went

back really just last week to the one up here a that's so good yeah I know and we were like wait did you did it again not taking the undies off but we were like doing this thing where we were like bending over parts of the wooden furniture to be like this is a nice place to f yeah you know you can't sting somebody for just bending over a piece of furniture you know yeah but we got in and got out so quickly so were you ban just from Bunnings in general lower North Island Bunnings so move to the upper North and do it there instead that is the best that is so like when I saw it the thing that cracked me up the

most about it was how cuz you you obviously you said that story and I was reading the paper that you got trespassed and stuff like the fact that they went to the cops I thought it was like a it's a risky move from a brand right like I think it is like if you think about their demographic men it could have been the perfect collaboration opportunity they can just turn a blind eye be like oh we're trying to stop them but oh sorry y y there's so much advertisement like the guy who does it in Australia who like goes out he dresses in a bunny's uniform and he talks to old guys and like the [ __ ] offs yeah he's the best he so good he

hasn't been trespassed is he right no clearly he's walking around in a uniform I actually have a Bunning uniform now so I yeah trust me I'm going back and I'm doing some [ __ ] the best thing about that is like because uh it's retail no one there will realize you're not new exactly that's the best thing cuz like y they're just retail workers like don't give a [ __ ] it's like hospit workers when they we in hotels like just like me like I used to think like people always get like real worried about when they go to a hotel oh people going to tell me if I I do sneaky stuff and like they don't give a [ __ ] they do not care and like steal the towels

they don't give a [ __ ] all the they haven't got time those girls who clean the rooms and mostly these young Asian girls or whatever like immigrants that's really the only people who do it they're not going to they don't give a [ __ ] they can pay minimum wage get treated like [ __ ] and have to clean 16 rooms in a day right some of them like we had a hotel where they had to clean like 22 so 22 rooms in a day which is than 8 hours which um what I'm trying to get at is like the retail workers don't give a [ __ ] nah not at all it's the people higher up or like how it's perceived so what guaranteed happened with you is like one person

was like oh this is a thing kicking out and then they had to put it in some book yeah they were just doing the right thing and then it got up to management and management was like we can't do this like this is WR how dare they take their undies off in my store yeah so I was like my my angle I was like let's go to my DET 10 and see if they want to do like a collaboration deal are we going to be accepted for taking our andies off at might tent you know like there are so many different Aven to explore that worth um yeah I'm not going to share all the secrets cuz I might geted before I even yeah yeah

yeah don't don't don't until you do it because I don't want that to ruin it um we had uh internal conversations when I first had only fans creators on here and we got to something like we like purposely did um just some funny sound bite stuff Y and like they were pretty [ __ ] up while was saying and whatever but I like we had an internal conversation and people worried oh what's this going to do for our client they're going to watch and we might lose bus and I had to like pull Rank and like tell these guys if if we lose clients because of this then fine that's such a great response like I got like like like these but I think like they all

kind of wanted it to happen my team went like stopped they're just like what what about this like have we thought about this and I was like you know what like if we can't do this then we like our whole mission in this business is to do cool [ __ ] that's what we get up to do and if we can't do that what the [ __ ] are we doing here why why am I going through like 12h hour days 6 seven days a week if I can't like interview an only fan star and make funny content like what the [ __ ] there and it's that [ __ ] is fun like it's so much fun and in fact like I've got lots of people like heaps of my friends from

LinkedIn which we'll get into have watched this content from these only fan and like that's like some [ __ ] up [ __ ] like you guys talk some [ __ ] up stuff and I was like it's funny though way like I watched the whole thing like I watched the whole thing and I was like so shut the [ __ ] up people are it's like this weird time I feel like there's such a area at the moment of what's AC with like agencies and Brands um and it's kind of like teetering on the edge and you're like in the thick of it making it happen but so many people aren't they may be contemplating it but I think oh I hope maybe over time that it becomes more accepting yeah I

think I think what I've seen is like people forget that these big corporates are run by people they just think oh it's a corporate so we can't do anything and I like no but like someone runs that business and there's people who we talk to yeah and like one of our like I probably shouldn't name names in this but associate Brands I might get taught off of that piece of it but we've got like um clients who their stuff that we get along with really well and they think it's hilarious yeah they think it's crack up they're like this is funny as [ __ ] they're like don't mention us on that podcast but but it's fun like it's funny like it's real cool you know what

I mean they just don't want to be brand Association which is fine of course but for them they can't do it cuz the brand doesn't work where is that for our brand it's fine like yeah I think so anyway um okay so was the bunny story that's funny I love that you just wind there last week oh it was great yeah has that content come out I haven't seen it no it hasn't come out yet and I also put she frish on the shelves and I was like I didn't realize you could get this here that is so good right right I'm just like segueing everything this point but throwing [ __ ] until it sticks oh I've got a good idea remember what I was talking

about today about the Olympics you need to go to Paris in July oh okay absolutely go no because like we were talking about the Olympics right it's coming up okay it's in Paris it's the big summer olympics the one thing that Olympics are known for now is that it's an orgy oh my God the Shea fres at the Olympics I'll go on behalf of the attention seeker no but like seriously you should like start a whole campaign about hey only fans guy like my my guys I need you to fund me to get me to Paris to take she and just like just subscribe to my only fans this month give me enough money I'm going to fly over I'm going take a case of

sheesh and how that such a good angle to also give it to the athletes and like also interview them no yeah that's it 100% it's just like doing funny show with athletes but giving them she fresh like imagine like being at the Olympic Village and having doing a video of Lisa Carrington our golden girl and just being like have you watched your [ __ ] today you've been in that Cano a while like here here she fresh holy [ __ ] you make the news I I well that's the point but for good reasons cuz I'm just promoting my business exactly a that's so genius you're welcome you can that one for free will one for fre yeah I'm going to get my subscribers to fundme to get to

Paris Paris yeah are you kidding as if they wouldn't I think they'd love it too no of course they would what if you just went like hey I got a Content series just just talk to the only fan subscribers and just it's them like this is what it is what do you want from me how do we make this happen like you're gonna buy this tier of something just to fund a thing I'll do y so I need the money now so I can go and then once I'm back or once I'm there I'm going to film some [ __ ] exactly oh this is great which athlete from what volleyball team do you want me to try make cont oh V's genius like actually just trying

to find Olympian post competing y yeah post middle you know what I could do I could jump the St you know when they're giving out the medals and I'm just I just you'll straight be in jail it's the Olympics no don't do that don't do that don't do that I've never been to the Olympics I don't know these things not the Olympics don't stri at the Olympics um no but like you just like make a funny series of Tik Tok of like six degrees of separation to get me to meet that you know that like the German run I think she's German um I think she does uh hurdles she's hot as shirt and so she's got like [ __ ] 8 million followers on Instagram but

she's right like that sort of thing where it's like a funny bit you're you're probably not going to get here because her sponsors will probably pull her or whatever yeah Alicia Alicia yes Alicia what's her last name oh yeah yeah yeah Schmid Schmid I'm sorry that was like the easiest last name um anyway that brings me to she yes tell me um tell me this journey just like in condensed way cuz I want to pick it apart yeah okay so I the idea came probably like a year and a half ago yeah when I you know only fans was pumping but I'm like it's not going to pump forever how do I Implement another income source that is still somewhat relatable so that when people

see what I'm doing now they're like oh that makes sense um and I was sitting in a room with my mate and we were both like what about like a feminine hygiene wash because there's stuff on the market that is priced way lower but it's awful like it's full of synthetics and parabens and this that and everything else so I was like okay what if we do it properly and get a scientific um sorry like a cosmetic scientist to formulate everything get it done so that people are buying it and want to keep buying it then I think we could be on to something so I spent a year doing that I thought it was going to take me like 3 months I was like

I'll buy like a couple things make it myself and we're away n and the money that came with that it was wild yeah but how much so far in Dev in R&D was it to get it all set up probably like 35 yeah for one one line for one bottle of she fresh yeah but it was you look at these companies with like 30,000 sko and you're like yeah holy [ __ ] yeah and you would have done it on the cheapest way possible cheapest compared to like Proctor and Gamble something I'm also very impulsive so I was like well I'm not I'm not the best person to build a website so paid somebody top dollar to do website development like copy like Brand's great I'm glad

you did that cuz you get so many people do it real [ __ ] right yours looks real good it's real slick it's real slick yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not it's not an imature like Oh I'm a mom and I started brand I wanted to put the money into it so it looked legit cuz the product's legit yeah um okay so 35k got it developed y um and you launched was a month ago now yeah yeah yeah how's it gone launch was great yeah like everybody kind of knew it was coming cuz I did that thing where I was hyping saying that it was coming and then there was like a 4mth delay so people knew that I was working on something yeah but um yeah

launched it a month ago the first week amazing you know cuz it's all like the sympathy buys family and friends and stuff but it's cool to still see every day like the little shop if I ch- Ching yeah nice I'm not doing anything and I look and a random person has bought it yeah cool how like give me some numbers like was your first first month like units sold first day was like 150 units amazing that's yeah that's heaps yeah I think I think like like we were talking to Lisa I think her first day was 40 Lisa Perez right when she launched hers it was like 40 cuz like and and I was like whoa well done that's [ __ ] huge like Conor did a

big thing too what was your first day what that's [ __ ] great but is actually that is great was his was even I was like that's [ __ ] great I mean at the time he was like oh [ __ ] I got tens of thousands of people watching my videos and seven people bought it yeah but you did it it great so many people get to the point where it get [ __ ] gets too hard and they're like no I'm out and then they never actually follow through on anything doesn't even matter if you make one sale exactly so 1501 day in and then since then it like it was really good for a week and then plateaued off probably maybe like 3 or four a day now three or

four a day oh that's still all right but I think it's because and I've deliberately done this where I've just done it with my organic engagement no paid ads or anything at the stage just to see what that could get me you don't need to do you ah you haven't done [ __ ] all content on she fresh page I know I need I need to I know see now you're calling me out again I need to start doing way more yeah how many posts have you done 11 prob n there's probably like 13 then oh yeah sorry sorry two more um that's nothing yeah a month ago like if this was my team like I would have been like bro there should be at least 100

pieces out already just every single day I have a question for you then saturation wise because you hear so many different things about posting on Tik Tok and Instagram can you post too much in a day there's there's there's a there's a bit of a loaded question like yeah yes and no yeah I think algorithm wise no mhm um there is a play when it comes to audience are you posting too much M if you curate the Right audience then no yeah okay cool because like if we're doing the right thing like when our content's doing what it should be doing on Tik Tok um you can't post enough like they're screaming for more yeah it's when we get to a point where like the

last probably six months like when we went to New York and then got busy and then summer happened we like we were posting [ __ ] just a full stuff and like is what it is but that was too much of nothing and and we went backwards I mean we've lost 15,000 followers in that time on our main channel so J and I and the rest of the brand Team have decided okay cool let's we got the resources now it's a new year like we can do this so let's put out less content but let's make it better yeah but we'll ramp it up like still knows eventually it's going to have to get back to the big numbers that we're doing of course so I guess

what I'm saying is like you can do too much if it's wrong content it can really hurt but you can't do too much if it's right yeah if you get it right and like if you're making humorous content you can't do too much of course you know how much many times I like go on a and like man I wish these guys had a new video out yeah you know every single one oh my God I do all the time yeah all the time yeah the ideas are there and obviously being in Oakland's going to be a hell of a lot easier cuz like a lot of the you here full time now you're full time now like my idea is to get on Street

interviewing men in the [ __ ] soit being like do you know what thrash do you know what a UTI is because they automatically think it's an STD and I'm like no so there's education and there's comedy just kind of wrapped in one like the um Can girl still P for ton in you know that video have you never seen that oh one of the best videos on Tik Tok really and so this chick just like asks men can girls pee with a Tamp oh that's great and most of them said well no of course like it's blocking the hole oh my God and it's like no wonder why you can't find yeah like [ __ ] are you have you ever been anywhere one oh that's okay and

it's good to know that that does well yeah oh so well it's like Jimmy Kimmel level funny right like this is like Jimmy Kimmel made the stuff the best you know when he's like dumb American content oh my God can you find us on this map poting at Russia yeah like you know like Jimmy Kimmel's so good at this just go to Jimmy Kimmel watch all his sigment and get the ideas get the ideas I mean our best piece of content for a brand that we won an award for well they won an award for we stole of Jimmy Kim what was it our Mean Tweets one we did for one of our Brands yeah yeah yep yep I know people know it if they

know it yeah um that purely came out of Jimmy Kim everyone knows we called it it's like it went for the award as Mean Tweets which is the name they called it like we didn't hide it at all like no we like straight up copied Jimmy Kimmel but it worked oh it was great yeah it was appropriate for the for the time as well for what they were trying to do yeah um so yeah so I love that that's so good drun content to like like as in you film drunk guys like not drunk but like out at night like like pby Road [ __ ] outside long room yeah and as soon you know even moving up here I've become a lot more identifiable like people

notice and will say things so you put two it's like oh that's that slim thing but she's dressed as the oh I've got some things to say like writes itself and it's less likely to get censored because it's not promoting but you know just do funny stuff just do I love that that'll take off yeah yeah yeah it's like it's really giving like girls get off content do you know girls get love Jo and yeah they're great that surely has to be a code lab I would love to like I think once you've got like full comedy yeah there has to be like she fresh and girls get off like that's come on that's likeing itself I know and if they don't want to do

it go to V somebody will cuz did Street interviews really the content creator that does the street interviews for V do you know V the so they um she's working with us at the moment with one of our clients so she's their content creator for their brand as well and [ __ ] like I didn't know what she done she started showing me all this like Street interview content and it's obviously like because of Six toys it's like they're talking about crap is [ __ ] good yeah it goes off there so would you do that for shees i' do that for she and you have your prank mom prank comedy that's and I do I don't know if you saw the whole like rating my DM thing that

I did I didn't see that so there that's what went nuts at the beginning at this time last year yeah yeah and then people you know there's a means to an end because people stop sending me messages because they're going to get outed on Tik Tok so I'm like oh well that's de in the water now but there's there's other way wait wait wait wait wait they stopped yeah people sto I thought it would have ramped up it it ramped up and then got in and and it was replaced with the most vulgar like not even funny couldn't even post it cuz it was just yeah yeah too full on okay and then the last thing I want to talk about because I think we're

probably getting towards the end of it now Conor's going to ask for overtime um is we talked outside and there's like this is a strategy that like no one else is going to steal so we're going to talk about it live righty because well it's not really live but it's like I do 100% think there's a LinkedIn strategy yes because no one does it I'm going to do I think you should yeah no honestly I I honestly truly believe that it's like a um on LinkedIn there's lots of wealthy people yep I'm going to get [ __ ] outed for this one this one I don't even know if this one can go up as [ __ ] it um no but like there's lots of wealthy people right

there's lots of people on there lots of money really high paying jobs it's the reason I started doing it in the first place because um business owners Business Leaders and stuff like that lots of money and they don't go on Tik Tok and Instagram the same way they just don't they scroll like LinkedIn is their scrolling right they're so scrolling but also just like they don't go on social media like they just don't they like watch The Warriors yeah you know like they don't do that it's not their us their behavior to jump on and and flick through reals yeah they just don't do they'll like flick on the TV and watch a movie or watch a watch the news or some [ __ ] right and

so um but they are on LinkedIn yeah because they're there for work no there's no saturation this is great but there's definitely a Content style that's like nonsexual but suggestive yeah enough that people like oh I just got added by this girl who's like who's that who is that yeah she's pretty like we have got plenty of like attractive female clients and when we used to do connection Outreach for them to like connect cuz like on LinkedIn I don't know how much you know but like you send a connection request it's a mutual connection so you both end up following each other you can't just follow people but like if you send a connection request they have to accept it and now you're connected Y

and we would do Outreach for clients to like get them connected with the right sit like people yeah and like these like attractive female clients will just get guys in their DMs like either trying to pick a mom yeah or just going [ __ ] off [ __ ] you like you [ __ ] [ __ ] why are you connecting with me really yeah like real bad like interesting they never did it to male clients like M just the female clients it's just you know guys being guys guys being [ __ ] yeah um so I think there's like a Outreach strategy we connect with these guys don't say anything you don't have to tell them you want anything no they just jump on who is this person mhm they see you their owner

of she fresh but like they'll do the math then they'll see this like suggestive office just link your just like just takes you straight to fans and then I saying to um I saying to outside like get like when you're ready to give up only fans before you do just like change your tier to $1,000 a month just onek a month oh because they'll pay it especially if they think they're going to get like a onetoone conversation with you y they just cuz they don't know it like these these guys aren't sitting on only fans subscribing to girls cuz it's just not the world they know yeah but then they're going to think like oh wait when I get to talk to her they spend

more on the prostitutes they sleep with oh yeah so Y without a doubt that I reckon there's something there I'm imagine just having 10 guys paying you a grand a month oh please it's just like a like you know 20 guys just like this should cash as I go along or aund of them yeah oh wouldn't that be great yeah I think I feel like after I've listened to your explainer that's such a no-brainer so nobody else take that idea please because I'm first they won't I've told heaps of people they won't do it is it the way that you Market yourself like would I use my LinkedIn that's for she fresh and do it that way I think yeah well I would still be

fully truthful in who you are on your page but I would just have content that's suggestive enough for people to understand yeah or or be intrigued enough to go who is the girl why did she ask to follow me yeah so I could use my existing I have a LinkedIn from when I was corrections officer so just oh yes all that whole story oh my God guys do I no because you know those guys are the guys who like they're the simps right like they're the guys who want you to come in as corrections officer oh yeah yeah this is I will I still got my corrections officer uniform it's probably too tight now which is even better cuz I could use that for the

office distraction stuff and imagine like sharing the story about you getting banned from Bunnings on LinkedIn that would that would go off on bunnies oh I mean on on LinkedIn and taging bunnies in it oh cuz it's now a Prof thing saying I can't believe they turned down all this free publicity like who's their marketing team did they not understand can a got three and half million views you should be paying me right right it's such an no-brain I yeah I don't know or even better is get your video with the [ __ ] off video and be like why is he not banned then they'll get cancelled [ __ ] Bunnings shall we cancel Bunnings yeah [ __ ] trying to come n um anyway okay what have I missed

what's something crazy you should have told me something crazy they should have told you cuz there's one other thing I want to finish on is this my face yeah like cuz if that can just be the crazy story like can we you have to put like a little picture on the podcast of what my face looked like you're going to have to send me the cuz it's th story so okay got it um so I no no I had to get the picture of your face next to the guy from um what did you post up hey you guys Goonies yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah these guys are too young oh okay so I the last Saturday um went to a cosmetic injector I had

had a huge night out um which was a big no no when you're getting injectables I just I was like Gaff whatever when and as soon as she started injecting blood started just like pissing out so my blood was really really thin she did cheeks and lips and because of how much alcohol and [ __ ] was in my system I started swelling so badly over the next couple of hours and I knew that it was normal but I was starting to get a little bit paranoid that wasn't the issue though cuz she was like okay it's probably normal but I'll just check you over anyway so I went back to see her and she was like I'm going to inject you with the stuff that um

brings down the swelling you're not allergic to bees or anything and I was like nah never been stung turns out I am so yeah she was injecting the stuff which oh my God I wish I had my face like I was watching it visibly grow by the second down here up here like the lips on me I thought I was going to die I was so scared um it was like that for 5 days I couldn't do content oh no I did I did a Tik Tok about it people I said I was like I got into a scrap of Bunnings with the security guard cuz I I saw your message come through the Friday before that happened saying yep real Keen to coming cuz

I know the guys in messag and I saw her come in the next day after seeing your story going she's not coming in this week she's not coming in this week I should have come in and done it anyway with my Fu face yeah it was horrendous so it's all good now it's all good now I was on steroids to like bring it down um but it was probably one of the scariest moments of my life like unable to to look and then I facetimed my mom obviously she's like what the [ __ ] have you done to your face like just tearing strips off me I feel like that's one of those stories that you should package up in a PR package and send it to

like lad Bible or something right no you should yeah no because it's one of those stories that lad Bible puts on and they push it out and it's like only fan star [ __ ] blows up her face blows up her they picked up the one with me pranking my mom with the fork in my tongue that and that did great so that was video yeah I I should yeah I'm definitely not doing injectables again that scared me for Life yeah that's so good all right thank you so much oh my God you're welcome Conor is doing his like stand get off this that we to finish up he's like I'm over it we're ready to go now um thank you so much appreciate it no thank

you this was great cheers