Exposing 'Mental Health' Advocate.

I'm not really going to do a welcome but I am going to get you to introduce yourself to the podcast okay and for everyone here so you tell us who you are and whatever you think is relevant for the people hi hi I'm guess um hi I'm guess I started making tick tocks a couple months ago just honestly because I love attention I'm gonna be reality and that I decided that I wanted to pursue a career in mental health um didn't really know what that was going to be was going to take the uh traditional route but I thought it's not for me um so then I decided to just pursue a mental health career as such I don't really know what that is wanting to work on creating a business but I obviously watching everybody else it's just personal branding marketing which is going the best like anything sells the moment somebody knows who the person is selling so I just kind of was like oh well the sooner I get out there and I start having my faceplaces and people start liking me hopefully being better all day hopefully but yeah that's again obviously it's working because you guys want to hang out with me yeah no absolutely like and I think um when we first like the first connected on Tick Tock I think and yeah we're in the chairman we so my whole thing is like taking digital relationships and Thursdays that's always what I've done on LinkedIn so when there's been a whole bunch of people on Twitter oh I'd love to see your studio or whatever I'm like yeah come and see it yeah and then you are just like yep yep give me the thing like the next day okay well [ __ ] that's cool I'm a real like talk about it be about it kind of [ __ ] these years like for ages I was really like I'm gonna do that and I just never did stuff and that's just I'm bored by that now so I'm just real gotta do it gotta get a Monster yeah good good so the point of this podcast um is about I mean it's full stands playing because that's what I do and the guys um give me a [ __ ] about it and I've been standing for um to Sean for a bit over a year now and she wants me to stand something to other people because she's sick of dad telling her off and so um you're like somebody else needs the feet like yeah so now she sits on this side of the table and she can laugh at you the whole goal is that like we found that and then actually you were part of the you and a few other people that we talked to at the same time um we're part of the reason we decided to do it this way because we we meet these people with like these followings and these like um you know attention and audience and they're trying to build a career out of it and they're like I don't really know what to do and for me it was always pretty obvious of how to monetize the things and then we had conversations with you and you're like holy [ __ ] yeah I should do that and then like even like ketos who's will get on he's going to come with podcast as well even just having he is making money out of it but then I told him a few things he's like that would like dribble my Revenue sort of stuff so the point of that this conversation is to get us to some point with you eventually but before we get there we're going to dig into who you are and just start pulling things apart because it's gonna be fun do it so the first thing is we sat down what was that two weeks ago yeah two three weeks ago and like [ __ ] I I hadn't actually consumed much of your content to be fair so you have no idea and our team actually follows you she followed you before we'd meet you oh my God yeah what I was getting myself into but then I like I'm just like yep let's have a chat because you see you said hey I love the chicken studio and I said yeah why not booking and then you did but we sat down I was about 30 seconds in and you just told me how you went to prison um like just look at me like that's funny like I won't shut up about it like I feel like most people you're meant to be like and I got diversion nobody would know if I didn't tell people literally like I did 14 weeks of Anger Management to get diversion to have a completely expand just for me to get on Tick Tock and be like got arrested Randy Saturday in August last year what the [ __ ] like I love it it just blew my mind and I tell everybody and it was like okay and I'm like it's weird though like I was like I love hearing about that kind of stuff like it's random air you have to give I don't know how much of the story you want to get but you have to give us at least like um the 30 second version we'll give the Highlights Highlights yeah okay well it came from a really hit a super spicy childhood that's why I'm honestly so funny um and was watching my little sister just be like it's a psycho isn't it like when it comes to Childhood adversity it just keeps happening and the more kids you have the more it happens and I think I just was getting [ __ ] bored of watching it like I was like as if we're gonna keep doing this um try to go about it like the right way communicate you know hey guys let's that didn't work um so I went over to go pick her up things got a little bit heated and I lost my temper and through hands yeah multiple times so I got two assault charges like it wasn't like wasn't just the humble one it was actually the two but it could happen to anyone it just kind of made me move like and like to be fair well the thing that kind of does I hit it but I I release it um I know so many boys that have King hit about four Dudes in town that have like full on they could have taken somebody's life randomly and like an instant second whereas I grew up super spicy childhood like you know aggression and anger is just super normalized and then the one time when you're an adult and you lose it all of a sudden we know how to clean them when I was a kid though I didn't know no yeah yeah and like because because it was domestic violence yeah because it's a domestic assault charge that's where I had to go to jail which is like we didn't see it coming like they were like oh you're arrested I was like yeah fan I'm sitting there my dad's like you're going to Monday morning and I'm like that it's Saturday like that's that's a double sleepover right there that's crazy are you joking but I was like but by the way I just had to double down on it like I'm sitting in like yeah that's fine dude yeah it's not even a big deal I'm like so you're just a were you where which where were you watching sound uh it was 28 in the Hindu police cells yeah honestly I wouldn't recommend everybody who else is anyone else no that's the thing no one to talk to imagine me three days no one to talk to wow so there's no one asking at all nothing no sunlight and that's that's what blew my mind like I'm real into mental health so I understand what can make somebody's mental health better and what can make it worse if I was to write a program to mess with someone who's mental health it would be the hindo police sales for the weekend which just feels really counteractive like it was like it is what it is do you know what I mean you make you you do the crime you do the time um but also I was like this doesn't make any sense long term like this is that's super eye-opening which I kind of like that's crazy right like um yeah like just fights in the city and stuff okay no I don't I don't get into fights because um I finish them there's like 100 my dad always taught us yeah you were never let us start a fight but you'd better [ __ ] positions good words to live by I think but it wasn't that it was just because like in so in New Zealand it fights happen dancers like break it up and well whatever but in Australia it's not the case like in Australia you're going to fight everyone goes to jail and uh but I didn't no I never started any fights like I I just keep getting punched or thrown you know like yeah like these short little white guys who just like go oh this [ __ ] kiwis [ __ ] let's start a fight and um the amount of times people start fights with us and we're like hey what's going on anyway and this is super normal with like a group of Pacific Islander Maori boys like I've they did a fair few um and it's like the fights find them half the time and then obviously they're like okay I'm gonna finish this and you're like please don't yeah so this particular time I was walking down the street I was walking out the season to a nightclub and guys we came out he's still on the Steelers right like an hour later and as we walked out he pushed me and started started to throw some stuff at me and I uh these guys jumped on my back and I was like thinking it was amazing so I like threw my elbows at their faces and they like hit the floor next to me like I've got them straight in the jaw and I turn around and then blue uniforms there's like 100 cops here and we just got Paul on my cousins was there and he like jumped in trying to save me anyway like once I realized our cops I was like holy [ __ ] it like hit me on the ground like handcuffed and just pepper sprayed my face and just kicking me in the face and all sort of got [ __ ] up see is it just delicious make no sense like to me hearing that I think maybe that doesn't make any sense I was like 100 they were getting me for what I did to their mates even though they were saying like hey where the police stops blah blah just like jump on some dude back who's getting attacked and don't expect them to throw so anyway nothing and that holds up in one line um yeah why asked if there's anyone else in there because there's a classic thing when you go into holy sounds anyway I like I'm written and have you guys ever seen that the like that video of thing I've won and he's just like talking about going to prison he's like I reckon I'd make some diverse friends and I was straight at when I was outside I'm gonna make some mini [ __ ] friends like I was like I'm gonna come out with so many new Yarns I'm gonna have connections like I This is Gonna Change me forever like this is gonna be sick and they literally like oh yeah so it's just you and then I'm like wait what and they're like and then I was like yeah no pins or paper can't even like write out all your little thoughts nothing just books and they gave me like murder mysteries like who oh my God I was like what is this counterproductive guys I was like okay I've got ideas for next is that one of your dad like I just felt weird that's so funny yeah prison's a funny thing I mean I've never actually probably presenters just being holding cells because I'm knocking out cops yeah I mean yeah happens to the best of us so it really does like honestly I majored in my friends are males which is like like thankful though because I was like the fourth person to get arrested do you know what I mean like in our group it's like a funding never have I ever ever and then four of us if we go remember that like and it's just funny like but I but I think also that's like a from a massive point of privilege I've come from the shore like you know like my friends are a certain demographic and we get to joke about going to jail for the weekend you know because it's it's funny yeah and also it doesn't affect me long term because so many people know who I am and what I'm about and I haven't been judged by it which is such a blessing but also it's made me be like this isn't every Salon woman's run of going to jail do you know what they mean which is being super ironic but that's kind of why I talk about it because I'm like if you're gonna laugh at me going to jail for the weekend don't ever judge another person for doing it because you don't know what happened you don't know like why that came about and like it's maybe a real passionate advocate for a little bit of time in the cells to be honest it's true though there's so many people that I grew up with that I'm gonna do like that have done the same stuff that I've done or other people have done but because they're brown or like you know just because I got more my mom's color yeah I was sweet and they've gone away like properly done six months in jail and it's just it's [ __ ] up it is so [ __ ] up and I think when you're half cast you see it so it's so black and white because you watch how differently you're treated when you're with like when you're promoting literally two different sides of yourself and it's disgusting like I felt it so much like there was only one guard in prison that like treated me like a prisoner like and it was like it was like like a beautiful woman and I kind of loved it because I was like you probably treat Every Woman person like this you know and you're probably just being super consistent with your job which I respect whereas every other guy was like so nice to me and just like spinning yards I was like [ __ ] up like you don't do this to everybody and I was like also I smell disgusting like I was like I would not be talking to me if I were young I love it so Italian like moving on from prison tour yeah the um that led into I mean this is we're gonna fast forward to the point where the good stuff your sister's here she's with you now all this sort of stuff happened but dewy stuff but now your sister's with you and you guys started telling a story yes and why did you do that probably because it's just that understanding of going through something and knowing that I'm not the only one like it's so normalized in Pacific and Maori cultures cultures for older siblings to take over looking out at the ends up like and I see it all the time like it had already happened to my family once like an older sibling had taken us and when she was 20 and me and my little sister were 12 and two like imagine being 20 and just having a 12 and a two year old but it was completely normalized do you know what I mean nobody was talking about it nobody was actually trying to fix the root cause of the problem the root cause of the issues it's just normalized like and that's the thing like I think you get to the point where you're just bored like you're so [ __ ] bored of it happening like but it's so good having her like it's so much fun this stuff is crack up it's so good and everybody relates like I've had so many messages from people and like really heartfelt messages like I get like a little bit teary-eyed sometimes and they had a woman reach out who said that she got her sibling when she was like 18 and they were 15. and there but the cool thing was she was like in a 30s and her youngest sibling was like a full-grown adult and she was just like watching him now be like a fully functioning adult and knowing that it was my sacrifices that got me there is just the most insane feeling and like she misses me that on the day of Karina's ball and it's bawled my eyes out in the car like I was like this is exactly it though like you do it because how [ __ ] rewarding is it watching your favorite human just succeed yeah and just live out their full potential which is so cool so yeah it's super rewarding and I get lots of brownie points for doing it everybody thinks I'm a great person so yeah I know so it's I love the concept of like this um opposites you know like it's like I'm into prison and I got my hit I got my teardrops and then on the other side you're like a super loving supporting sister but like so how will you continue is Right ten years yeah yeah um how was that like such a crazy it's just the craziest thing um it's so hard giving a kid and this is so many parents that gentle parent there because when they weren't gender parented it's just hard giving someone space when you're not given space but it also motivates you even more to do it and also I feel like I'm super lucky like Karina's a teenager so the things that I do in front of her she's like a copycat right now do you know what I mean like with little kids you can be modeling the behavior for ages and you're not really reaping the rewards and seeing massive shifts whereas with a teenager watching how much she's changed in the year that I've had her how much like nicer she is like literally just how much nicer how much happier she is to be here like how much more empathetic she is to other people like she has so much more space to deal with other people's problems because her stuff isn't being loaded on her at home you know and this is the thing like it gets me so much about the ram raids and things like that when people talk about teenagers um Behaving Badly because I'm like you're not giving them the basic things that they deserve and then you expect them to do better yeah yeah the ram red stuff always cracks me up like oh I'm gonna be tough on these kids and blah blah it's like no you probably just need to talk to them yeah they just need some love like weirdly enough we're all human beings and they are still small human beings that need love like that's what love is because I'm a nanny as well so I nanny children and then I raise my sister and that's the same thing you know what I mean like oh my God it's the same formula you just give them space to make mistakes you love them unconditionally yeah and you just have to put your own [ __ ] aside and that's and that's the hard of it isn't it like it's putting your own [ __ ] aside which I get is super hard but super rewarding like it's so cool just being able to see the changes and like going to a parent teach interviews and her teachers are like oh she's so lovely thanks what's been the hardest part um feeling like I'm just losing myself you know like I went through a breakout during it like um so I that's when I was single I was 24. um wasted all the time you know like just being a bit of a girl like out there for living my life like as a flight attendant everything was so different and then all of a sudden I got Karina and like a PR internship working full-time like Everything's changed and I want a routine at home I want a stable home environment like I worry about the lighting like it's so weird and all of a sudden it's like finding who I am because I stopped enjoying so many things that I used to love like you know like being out for an entire weekend would be so fun now it's not fun like I want to be at home I want to be there and it's also how it's weird just how much you just want to sacrifice everything yeah like just you don't care like you just don't care about yourself as much as you used to which is such a weird thing to navigate and learn so yeah it's just been like losing myself but also it was losing my whole family like I lost content with everyone everyone from my dad's side everybody from my immediate family gone you know and like people that raised you and I thought they really liked me like you know they were moving like pretty nice with those first 25 years and then all of a sudden like one event is enough for that to be over which blew my mind because that our family's gone through it like and so many other events people like oh yeah that's fine that's fine and I like wait a minute like like my brother was in rehab for like four and a half years my dad was there every single weekend you know but I was like he goes and stuff with being Italian food yeah and everybody's hurt and like I get it like I'm a real like straight up person to deal with and I get that that's a bit tough sometimes but yeah it's just figuring out who I am like it's a power change right like it's a power Dynamic like when that shifts and the power changes where you're no longer like backing down at all because you're old enough to [ __ ] do whatever you want people can't handle that [ __ ] and that happens in our family like when the power of dynamic shifted from dead being the boss to us four boys don't get [ __ ] like it was six years ago I didn't talk to my dad and um we like fell out like none of us saw it right we just none of us talked to him all my brothers were like [ __ ] you if you're not gonna hate one of us you're gonna hate all of us we're all Brothers um but then over time they started to repair is he essentially lost all his power yeah and so he had no more power at all and we like we were able to build that relationship back with them knowing that he will never have their power over us again so we weren't I guess like we weren't scared of them anymore we weren't those little kids who used to look you know we're like our own men now and so so like you know you probably the things will happen my time heals everything right yeah but what's good is that you can go back in on little terms and that's what happened in the past like dead they did I have a good relationship now they're my first employee in this business and like he only came to work with me because I needed someone I knew I could find him straight away to myself and but like it's super cool to like have back that relationship with them as well uh but also we're different people right like he's not the dad he was when I was young and he looked up two and he's a different he's a different guy now so it's one of those things you have to be ready for it but what's cool about it is you get to choose it yeah exactly and made the decision it's having that having their power is so precious and it's like with great power comes greatest ones it's like that should I but it is because I'm like leading him back into our lives whenever that happens if that ever happens yeah it's not even just me as well like I have to consider Karina and have to consider the fact that that has on her life her development and it's I think this is the hardest thing I didn't realize how hard it was is when you try so hard to like appear in a kid in a certain way and then you have the other adults in their life just completely going against everything you're like can we continue here like it's so hard to navigate that and the good thing is that you've got like a few years and she's going to be in the proper adult like it's not a 19 year old like a 27 year old who will be able to make your own decision to make repairs of those relationships itself it won't be something you have to consider yeah just decide on your own right she'll tell you yeah right because you'll get her own power which is pretty cool to watch it is so yeah it's so true like she is and she gets this she does so well like she's so great like and I know she'll navigate that relationship well it is it's so hard just trying to be present now in the moment though because like things are calm now you know like there's actually no immediate threat of chaos or stress or disorder and I still have it's like PTSD almost say like just being like so anxious Something's Gonna go wrong and always feeling like you need to be on top of it I just need to relax a little bit like all right so you've got something oh my God got all this attention I love it and you're this mental health AdvoCare and so we really wanted to have a look at this mental health stuff right so we wanted to throw some of the stuff up and we wanted to figure out how some of these photos help with mental health yes that is um men's mental health is a [ __ ] nightmare in this country I'm not gonna lie so I came up with this idea that I'm just gonna be a little bit thirsty you know you know what because I remember hearing something oh yeah see I came up with this idea a couple weeks ago and then I was in Queenstown with that little kind of bikini and I was like [ __ ] it I'm just gonna start running it straight enough and you know what since then two boys have messaged me about mental health so there you go I loved it I love hearing it actually and they actually like we do it as a bit of a funny joke but actually like it's I love it I knew it was coming you're gonna be like no way she wouldn't be like worried about it but I was like oh I'm not sure if I'm this podcast we're going straight from jail to my back if I'm bringing it up but we like it is something that's quite interesting usually and that that you've had two guys with chat it's quite funny actually because I remember you saying that the nation would need that um yeah there's been reach out to these female followers and stuff why do you think it's hard for men to do this like why is it just not cool like the self-development space is cool for girls now do you know what I mean we've made yoga and journaling in our morning routine we've romanticized it it looks so pretty we love doing it we need to get the thing is we don't really need to get boys romanticizing it we just need to get enough of them doing it where they realize oh this is actually better for me like I feel better doing this stuff I'm just going to start promoting it in whatever way that they want to start promoting it yeah but the thing is they like they've just got no connection to the education like even so honestly my game plan is just getting a little bit funny on the ground um because I don't really like Instagram I don't use it for any other real reason and I like put up some mental health posts which I like but to me it's not the resource that I do well and like I do well on Tech talk that's where my audience is so as I say I'm kind of wasting the resource and also I was given this body I was like I don't want to waste my vessels like so I thought okay with the ground back like back my early 20s when it was real fun and then you become like 24 and you're like I hate it but then recently I was like who literally who cares like nobody cares and since like two guys have visited me so the 30 area kids the more the boys would feel unsupported you know no no it's so funny and can we go to The Tick Tock yeah um because the one thing I want to ask about can we go to the main profile um is so if this brand is can we scroll up so we're sitting here just shy of 10K quality right um to the now climbing there like the last like couple of weeks but um and then if you look at you've got your other channel which is mental health BT right yeah why did you decide to split those I feel like it was I was going to be able to do more in the corporate space if I had a like a more palatable brand do you know what I mean but I didn't want to lose the authenticity of who I am on this like I loved how um people engage with me on this I feel like people genuinely get to know like who I am on their account second one yeah um but with the mental health PT I wanted that to be just focused on Mental Health advice like if you find me in my stuff annoying then I wanted to just have another Avenue for Content yeah which it just feels more specific and plus because like I like having my main Tech talk real hectic like there's nothing like there's no real like you can't see what's happening there so I just thought this was more curated um you know what this is a real interesting we've been talking about uh I've been talking about this with Joni a lot lately about this idea of um should should you Tick Tock or should your new age media be curated in a way that like is real value-driven delivery and and like where we've come up to now is that like it's an old it's a hangover from Instagram base like an Instagram Daisy head the two profiles and that was a thing but where I'm sitting at the moment my my view of this is that you're a personal Tip Top the one that you've you're [ __ ] handed on absolutely that is so if you want to talk to 10 people right who can't meet enough to try to find these 10 people if you can get a video to see 10 000 people the chances of those 10 people being there is really hot yeah but if you're running videos that are on your mental health while they're getting you know lessons you're way more value driven staff which isn't it as fun and whatever the chances to find those team people's really hard and so like you know our but having heaps of people see it let's they then go and explore like in the last so not yesterday the day before when it first time talking about we had four and a half thousand people hit the website four and a half thousand right so they're trying to find other things my personal profile had 400 additional followers and we haven't put up his content tool today you know it was all just wrong with them finding it um the Instagram went up by two or three hundred followers and all that sort of stuff yeah I'm saying like this stuff like this character the personal brand why not just blow that up yeah I feel like it is I I've been thinking this also as well because I just I I I'm a real follower of the feeling kind of girl like I just before yeah to make the content that makes me feel good and I have it in no motivation on my the mental health PT yeah just sum that motivation on like this because I just feel like you know like less being on hinged way more fun like way more fun works yeah exactly people want to see and there's way much more way more character building stuff on these ones than you yeah like we still do stuff that aren't as crazy as always right but you can still have it there and the ones who really love you or really want that side of you also watch those ones yeah because you're um your ambassadors or like the people who love your brand will get in behind 100 and watch it all I reckon you should just blow this one out yeah I loved this that one there yeah I was so annoyed I didn't get more engagement because I was just like ah I feel like it was good can we watch it can we oh we can't get sound on there no we can't get sound I've benefited from this culture being so accessible in New Zealand but I reckon it's a super tone deaf to have stuff like this with men's mental health the way that it is because it's real obvious that the boy's inability to connect and date and just genuinely like women like it's just it's because they don't like themselves do you know what I mean like their culture is so like obvious in this country that our men they don't like themselves and because they don't like themselves they're so nasty to the woman that they date and it just felt tone deaf air so I said that they should collaborate with like a men's mental health charity and the the charity should come on the show and do like a little talk about just about mental health and you get the boys talking and then have that shown on the show I think that they would be like because it could turn something really toxic into actually you've now got this these like group of boys that are watching us and idolizing this all of a sudden they're being educated like I mean I like it um it would have been cool if they had the option you know they go in in this 10 factors 10 non-fat boys it would have been cool to have the option for the Fat Boys to decide whether they wanted to change yes but actually I want to be a nice guy now they have to be productive not just like entertainment yeah this is the show like this caused me a whole bunch of steering but it feels like it's kind of like it just feels kind of stupid because I'm like who asked for this we've been asking for our own version of Love Island for literal years you know like nobody's asked for this nobody's wants this like wow just trying to make sense that is shocking yeah it only gets people back to TV it's so boring like I was like surely we're past this like there's so much good media out there like can we just this is boring as and I think like the cynical marker in me is going it's actually brilliant because you have to like heaps of people watch it just for them say goodbye what the fox is all about um and then what happens when you watch TV right you watch ads and then they can put ad spots in and they can charge a shitload of money and we all know the TV guys struggling with their reviews at the moment I mean New Zealand's a little different to other countries it's like there's a population here that still watches shitloads of TV which is crazy it just blows my mind I love everyone that's so funny yeah but you're so right though like love Island at least has like a purpose at the end this is like New Zealand's reflection on how we can't find love but we've got [ __ ] up yeah it's it's super bad like from a manifesting point of view like we do not need to be showing our young it is like it's so it's so Grim for them already and then it annoys me because I'm like this is what we put in the media this is what we're giving them and then we're like why are they Ram reading they don't have other [ __ ] to do like we're not giving them any other bidder options and we're blaming children like it just feels so weird yeah that's actually quite quiet I haven't actually seen this one um but you're right about the good guys these days it's pretty it's pretty [ __ ] like four like I would hate to be like Connor's age I hate to be 22. oh literally I feel so bad for my losses like I'm so glad I was a teenager when I was a teenager and covert happen when Co like covet happened when I was like 24 like fine it didn't matter like I wasn't into going out like I didn't care that festivals got canceled but for people that are like 2021 you're joking yeah how was that sure it sucks it sucks I just feel like oh we've had this is like a completely different conversation but we've talked about it before heaps of us because you couldn't get like a hospital job you couldn't go out anywhere you couldn't just like experience life you had to get a really good job yeah and so now we've all got these really good jobs and no life experience in terms of like going out and just tipping or just even like having that period of time too yeah like we all did like I mean high school but it's just a different thing to party with the people that you know and then party with people to get to know new people oh yeah it's kind of just like that's a good point how long are we gonna be in like I love my job but I also want go see the world but I got this job at like 21 when I should have got it when I was like 27. you know what I mean so I was like then that's a new cultural shift and I'm not the only one all my friends think yeah well I don't know like because I literally when I talk about like I had the best post High School pre-20s like the best like straight out of high school I got a job at hallenstein so like just fun as culture so much fun and then after that I worked in building control for like a little bit just an office job to get like some decent coin behind me and then I became a flight attendant and then I was a flooded in from the ages of like 21 to 24. like the the best time and I always think that's how many like I lived in this feral flat like just it got feral as but I loved it like it was so much fun but I feel so bad that people that aren't doing that thing because I reckon that's why I don't mind being like this like little stay-at-home mom buys you know because I like um I don't know a lot of my system kids like what are you actually that's a real good thing I mean we probably have to get into some of the stuff we want to talk about but what happens when Korean is like a year later and then you're going to find yourself again what happens what's the what's the goal oh I think I plan on building such a big mental health career that that's like it because I love mental health I just love talking about it Korea's a thing for sure like obviously I have this Theory because I'm literally crazier um but like my boyfriend is coming in coming in Hut he's just gonna come in like right after I've gotten all my ducks on the road pretty much because I feel like I've got a little bit of a chip on my shoulder because I got like [ __ ] over by Realty last year I kind of want to do it by myself and then once it's all done then he'll come and be like oh yeah no big deal like yeah that's just a whole mental health career oh what do you have oh yeah that's fine we can share like do you know what I mean yeah literally how good I want to stay at home husband like I feel like they would be like I feel like I want to like make back and have a little stay-at-home boyfriend I'd like to stand with mine okay but it's so funny though like when you become like swapping because I've obviously gone from being like flight attendant which boys [ __ ] love like they love a little and they're so different now that I'm like oh yeah like I'm building mental health career it's like boys are so different like holy yeah like I did not realize how different they would just like behave and I was like why why are you being weird like yeah but it is it's so it's a thing about like uh careers that are sexy right yeah this is like CC careers and they change over time too like and you know this crazy because it's all the females are in those yes like all the [ __ ] careers are like all mean dominated because they're not 16 to begin um which is like marketing at the moment right like marketing is like full of women yes it was like social media is like one of the 60 Industries to work in yeah but your mental health is not yeah 100 the more I get my butt out on Instagram the more people are gonna be like mental health sexy yeah and so what so last time you talked to me I mean I'm gonna be honest with you like it was a pretty sketch Edition but like as all of my videos because even my addition today is pretty scary like China it's like when she started I mean I was like listening but over a year ago and we're not even close to the same company we were yeah we were then I didn't know what I was hiring some foreign [Music] [Laughter] second one yeah yeah so what I was going to ask is um what like what is the plan now honestly I don't know I'm trying to find something that gives me a good amount of dope for me just like keeps me entertained and I'm loving all of the work that I'm doing with my my voice matters yeah that's super Keen to start that project I think I do want to move towards motivational speaking like realistically that's gonna create the best amount of revenue for the least amount of time which means that I can because I realized I want to just have my time autonomy over my time that's my main goal because I know I'll be super driven and focused to like networking get amongst the right spaces so right now it's just creating a revenue that doesn't take a huge amount of time so I can actually just life but donate my time to other things yeah like we talked about that at the time right like you have um a lot of people go they try to monetize every aspect of who they are in their brand and they're trying to sell every little bit but like my whole thing is 99 of all the stuff I do is going to be free and get people out and then when people finally want to work with us but like Yep this is how much we cost to work with the team right like and you have that bar really high but yeah you've got to deliver a lot of value yeah and like like I was saying to you like speaking Googs um what you can charge for speaking Goods is actually quite a lot of money um for the hour or whatever it is that you might speak for so no I'm all for that I think that for you I think that I think that your goal right now is just to get that 986 photo followers to like 98. yeah and then to 980. yeah and so I would be going like just get that as big as possible yeah and to weave as much of the mental health up as possible the hundred acts of kindness thing I think it's cool and we obviously talked about that last time I think you should definitely be um starting there like however it is and I know they're all going to chat some more about them you'll benefit um but in here like you should be finding all the other people in your space yeah like Mike King yeah making all 100 do [ __ ] right yeah he's that sort of guy but like who are all the who are all the other people do you know yeah like I've like I've been friends with Jennifer Moira and like I have started making those connections and things I think yeah like I feel like it is I do just gonna keep making content I think I think I just overthink it there's like lots of my videos went viral really quickly like within my first like week of I was like oh I'm just gonna post every day for a week and within three days like one of them went viral and then lots of them went out and I think got a little bit scared because it's such a massive stage and when you're being so authentically just me like that's just cats like it'll be like that's all it is um I think we've got a little bit intimidated by it and knowing that I had the power to go viral and like like obviously we've got a message about it guys um like I have this like theory that if I really commit to it I'm just gonna pop off and then I was like because I'm a big bigger picture thing I'm like and then I'll never get to go back you know like and which is cool because that's part of my brand I want to be on a big stage because I want mental health to be on a big stage but being able to actually really get down to it and like know that that's what I'm walking into is that's what is getting I'm getting up in my head about but then I'm also like why have I not at 10 000 followers I'm so inconsistent but you know you can just delete this right yeah no but you know what I mean yeah no that's such a that's so true people always think they can't right like they're Fame once you've got it it is not bad at all it's actually the opposite you can lose pain in an instant yeah actually that's so true real fast like there are so many people like but we have a term for it in the music industry right or one that wonders like these guys who just sold 20 million records and then you're like who's that guy it happens all the time it is so true so you have no like you have complete control over this brand and you can completely just delete it if one day you're like I'm over it yeah I would say not yeah don't do that just go get it just go unpack those big feelings yeah um but I agree I think that you should be filming this like huge yeah I think like where a lot of people go wrong in this sort of era like oh I shouldn't say go wrong but you did the same thing that Joni and our team did without tintock right so she started it we had a strategy we all knew it she did it it popped off in [ __ ] 15 000 followers yeah and I actually had 10 000 and wink seven yeah and then by late nine or whatever at fifteen thousand and then she just did nothing because she lost all motivation she was scared of failure because now she'd like to set the bar she was like oh I'm never gonna get there again and like how many like cries and um like a lot of cars okay because making content is it's so much feelings like so much feelings because you feel so attached and I think that's it like and it's having to be real with yourself about what is behind that feeling and that is I think it has been a massive thing especially since I came and saw you because when I came and saw you and my yarn and we kind of mapped it all out I was like I know I'm smart enough to do this yeah you know what I mean and that chat really solidified that for me like I was just like come on [ __ ] like you've got this you know what to do and then the last couple of weeks I've been like because like this is quite old this one yeah right and and I noticed that it tells like after we spoke almost I was like oh she's like I'm not putting anything out and and then I was like and I was thinking because we're getting you on this I was like oh I wonder where her head's at yeah and that's it's interesting I think like you're pretty much where Joni was a week ago yeah a week ago right like every Friday afternoon we would have to give Joanie wine and console her because she was just a [ __ ] Chromecast I got this yeah but like then she something switched and she had a plan again and she started going and then like in three days we went from 17 000 to 50 000 followers another 10 million views like it's just been outrageous and there's no signs I've signed it yeah like I'm like a little bit nervous that by the time up on Tuesday we're gonna be like a hundred thousand dollars and that's the thing it just pops off and like I know I've watched it so many times with other creators and things and I think that's why that's I feel like so much that's why I sent out here because I was like perfect I know exactly what to do and I went home and I was like literally just so scared because I was like logically you've already watched it happen do you know what I mean so I logically know that it will happen for me and then it's like okay now to do it like so what's stopping you from doing right now uh can we feel like it's been like a bit of a creative block like but I feel like it's been a creative block because I've had this really high standard for what creativity I want to put out like realistically I've been thinking about heaps of like ADHD stuff that's funny as like I think of [ __ ] that's funny all the time and then I just get paranoid and overthink it and don't want to do it and then like go into a depressive whole but I'm so over those and bored with them so I'm done with that because even when you came in the other day when I was like oh you know if you want to use a studio come and make whatever and you're like yeah I'm gonna come in and you taught me some ideas and then you just lift break down and I was like I knew it was it's like hard for people to grasp because you are like quite unconventional in the sense that like this is an office it's hard for people to be like he actually means come and grab me and do it because people like say that all the time and then don't do it so you have this like warlock that you're not going to just jump into a tick tock yeah I will right yeah yeah I know that logically and I think but it's also like they're having this like entire year like I barely left the house like I've been like and used to I used to be like this social butterfly that was always with people and I found connecting and doing this kind of [ __ ] real easy it's obviously because you have to be a flight attendant so you just sew out the gate and then like be like this is another thing like I've just been like awesome like second guess and I'm like what the [ __ ] are you up to like you went to a jail on a random Saturday and you were like no big deal but now you're like going into an office and you're like in the car like okay you're strong you're smart I love that that's so funny okay I am so [ __ ] awesome I'm just like [ __ ] you guys I literally like jump between that [ __ ] and like this insecure depressant all the time and I'm like okay who's driving the ship right now like who's gonna go who's showing up for work tomorrow like it's so much okay so what's the golden positive plane so the goal is to smash out things and hunting over the next two weeks before Stan I understand tell me the hashtag yes because Dan told me to I was doing some stance I actually think that like wear a lot of young creators go wrong is one one we've just talked about you get into this block because you success here and you're scared of the failure well you're actually scared of the success but anyway yeah me no I definitely don't think I'm gonna fail but that is what are you doing but then like the monetization of the audience there's always something that people are like oh I need to do this like I need to get the monetization going I need to build a business and I think for you I actually think you take it a little slower and it's only you know just even since I've seen you like I and I didn't say that last time right I was like Focus do this yeah toss the [ __ ] out yeah but actually I reckon that you should get that number to 100 yeah that you'd be different by deceiver yeah like seeing what we've done in the last few days I know logically it's the strategies it's the consistencies and it's just like people seeing you and liking connecting to you yeah and I know that that's what I'm good at like I'm good at people like but and then just like work through with it like it's really hard to build a business and I think that like the speaking gig thing is something that takes a lot of time to do and actually getting onto things like this where you're speaking and people can see Naturally Speaking really good figures they know help you with the speaking yes everybody hire me to speak yeah you know all the principles of listening all yeah who um higher but that's once you've done that like I think I think if you get to 100K you'll get a bunch of reindeers and stuff there's not a lot of money brains just [ __ ] you over anyway that's what we're trying to do is I'm gonna utilize a little bit of Fame you've got bleed you dry and give you like a thousand dollars for it like Jody tells me about it like two thousand dollar thing for like Bunnings I might just call you 22 two grand that's heaps of money but I'm like they just bleed you yeah like that's [ __ ] you know that's like one thing that I also because like I want mental health to be like in fluid throughout my entire brand like I don't want to do brand deals unleash they are a company that also prioritize it and want like kind of like ethically Kate like I love how how her fingers sustainability and it's through every part of her being like I want to do the exact same thing with mental health like but it's like yeah figuring out what that looks like but I think it's charity money and it's coming there's heaps of stuff in there like even the guys like Uncle ticks in there who did a whole bunch of stuff over lockdown about the same thing they got they got those Government funding that paid them to do all these ads and stuff yeah sure they would have got heaps of money out of it they would have gone because there would have been government money so it would have been big budget stuff yeah um but yeah I don't know I think you should I think you need to for mental health PT thing yeah just let it pull it into here yeah I need I think you need to choose one and I think you know it's this one because the name on the top yeah like the personal brand part of it I mean we're a little bias in our company but the personal brand thing is way better and I think this Dynamic is the one that I like yeah I know it's not necessarily the biggest ones but like you need to start getting the characters yeah I know like me and Karina actually doesn't kind of me incredible and film a podcast in here please yeah okay I was like yeah [Music] this is bring her and do the stuff but like build the characters I think it's called I think that like trying to build two brains is definitely work yeah that's exactly it and I think I'm trying to purposely make it harder because I think I just thought it was a little bit scared of just being casted do you know what I mean like it's so much easier to be behind a brand but I know that there's a reason why I have this super hectic stories because it's so relatable and it's a perfect it's the perfect story to be in light with mental health you know like it's why it's been heaven right I just kind of sat up and do it yeah you've got to build you've got to build up like trying to build two branches a shitload of work and it gives you an excuse not to do it but building your personal one it doesn't you know what it doesn't matter what you go to do and I actually reckon that you'll probably get a year in and every single thought you've got about all your businesses now will be gone yeah because mine are like mine are from when she started yeah and I was already two years into the business yeah you know what I mean so I'm two years into the business I hire someone and then a year later we're doing we're 100 different like the [ __ ] fact that we're sitting in the studio right yeah thank you doesn't know how to boss people around so she just placed a dump yeah I don't know we're coming up to the end of the hour that was from Cracker we should we should um we should have like follow-up ones where oh yeah yeah this is not we could just pull it apart can we do McDonald's I'll like stand there as a big thing of it and you'll be like Cassidy what content have you put out this week and I'll be like this is my this video okay but hey thanks for coming in um thanks for having me the first guest on our new standstone show I don't know how much I still explained but um it was called these story and uh I think that you are definitely going to do it you just need to get all your [ __ ] yeah you probably need to talk to journey and then you actually need to listen to him because like honestly like 22 year old girls need to listen to Sean and just be like I'm a [ __ ] boss [ __ ] see ya

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